Comments for Javascript - Still Object-Oriented http://javascript.funkencode.com Now better than ever with the FUNK! Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:39:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 Comment on Darwin Among the Prototypes by Dan Shafer http://javascript.funkencode.com/2008/02/10/darwin-among-the-prototypes/#comment-373 Dan Shafer Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:57:44 +0000 http://javascript.funkencode.com/2008/02/10/darwin-among-the-prototypes/#comment-373 Laurence, Lots of great links here. You are a funkenlinkinpository, dude! I still have fond memories of creating firestorms every few weeks when I was CNET.com's "Master Builder" columnist and I'd do another "Here's more proof that JavaScript is object-oriented." I *still* get strange looks and nasty comments from people when I say that. Life's simple joys. One of my clients was recently bemoaning the fact that JS was beginning to be treated as if it were a "real programming language" as he put it. With all these new frameworks, though, it is becoming quite possible to do remarkable stuff and not really have to master JS all that thoroughly. I think language abstraction has always been a widely overlooked value-add for well-factored object frameworks. Laurence,

Lots of great links here. You are a funkenlinkinpository, dude!

I still have fond memories of creating firestorms every few weeks when I was CNET.com’s “Master Builder” columnist and I’d do another “Here’s more proof that JavaScript is object-oriented.” I *still* get strange looks and nasty comments from people when I say that.

Life’s simple joys.

One of my clients was recently bemoaning the fact that JS was beginning to be treated as if it were a “real programming language” as he put it. With all these new frameworks, though, it is becoming quite possible to do remarkable stuff and not really have to master JS all that thoroughly. I think language abstraction has always been a widely overlooked value-add for well-factored object frameworks.

]]> Comment on About by Javascript - Still Object-Oriented :: Darwin Among the Prototypes http://javascript.funkencode.com/about/#comment-366 Javascript - Still Object-Oriented :: Darwin Among the Prototypes Mon, 11 Feb 2008 04:06:11 +0000 http://javascript.funkencode.com/about/#comment-366 [...] interesting to observe the evolution of object creation. The name of this blog is a reflection of my early embrace of the language at a time when most people didn’t think it was object-oriented. It was precisely because of [...] […] interesting to observe the evolution of object creation. The name of this blog is a reflection of my early embrace of the language at a time when most people didn’t think it was object-oriented. It was precisely because of […]

]]> Comment on Lively Kernel @ Google Tech Talks by Club Squeak » Lessons From The Lively Kernel http://javascript.funkencode.com/2008/02/08/lively-kernel-google-tech-talks/#comment-360 Club Squeak » Lessons From The Lively Kernel Fri, 08 Feb 2008 07:27:07 +0000 http://javascript.funkencode.com/2008/02/08/lively-kernel-google-tech-talks/#comment-360 [...] Dan Ingalls did a Google Tech Talk last month which may be of interest to many of the current Squeak-dev list discussions(Morphic 3, JVM etc.) as well as Croquet or anyone interested in the web as distributed object space. [...] […] Dan Ingalls did a Google Tech Talk last month which may be of interest to many of the current Squeak-dev list discussions(Morphic 3, JVM etc.) as well as Croquet or anyone interested in the web as distributed object space. […]

]]> Comment on AJAX and The New Web: Back To The Future Again Part 1 by Javascript - Still Object-Oriented :: Lively Kernel @ Google Tech Talks http://javascript.funkencode.com/2006/07/24/ajax-and-the-new-web-back-to-the-future-again-part-1/#comment-359 Javascript - Still Object-Oriented :: Lively Kernel @ Google Tech Talks Fri, 08 Feb 2008 07:17:35 +0000 http://javascript.funkencode.com/2006/07/24/ajax-and-the-new-web-back-to-the-future-again-part-1/#comment-359 [...] inevitably create messy situations from which you later have to dig out from under. As I’ve noted before wrt AJAX, the long path taken to Web 2.0 was considerably longer than it had to be. The seeds of REST & [...] […] inevitably create messy situations from which you later have to dig out from under. As I’ve noted before wrt AJAX, the long path taken to Web 2.0 was considerably longer than it had to be. The seeds of REST & […]

]]> Comment on AJAX and The New Web: Back To The Future Again Part 1 by Javascript - Still Object-Oriented :: Server-Side JS http://javascript.funkencode.com/2006/07/24/ajax-and-the-new-web-back-to-the-future-again-part-1/#comment-327 Javascript - Still Object-Oriented :: Server-Side JS Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:21:35 +0000 http://javascript.funkencode.com/2006/07/24/ajax-and-the-new-web-back-to-the-future-again-part-1/#comment-327 [...] at all this good stuff had me feeling like I really need to get to Part 2 of AJAX and the New Web: Back to the Future Again but then I came across this great cartooon - The Development Circle of Life which  gives me til [...] […] at all this good stuff had me feeling like I really need to get to Part 2 of AJAX and the New Web: Back to the Future Again but then I came across this great cartooon - The Development Circle of Life which  gives me til […]

]]> Comment on Back To Aptana by The Ruby-Squeak Symbiosis » Aptana http://javascript.funkencode.com/2007/07/01/back-to-aptana/#comment-12 The Ruby-Squeak Symbiosis » Aptana Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:42:18 +0000 http://javascript.funkencode.com/2007/07/01/back-to-aptana/#comment-12 [...] an IDE that I can use for multiple languages is cool. Initially I was unable to get Ruby support to install in Aptana because it said I needed [...] […] an IDE that I can use for multiple languages is cool. Initially I was unable to get Ruby support to install in Aptana because it said I needed […]

]]> Comment on AJAX and The New Web: Back To The Future Again Part 1 by The Ruby-Squeak Symbiosis » We now return you to the programming in progress … http://javascript.funkencode.com/2006/07/24/ajax-and-the-new-web-back-to-the-future-again-part-1/#comment-11 The Ruby-Squeak Symbiosis » We now return you to the programming in progress … Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:34:28 +0000 http://javascript.funkencode.com/2006/07/24/ajax-and-the-new-web-back-to-the-future-again-part-1/#comment-11 [...] but not limited to a native Ruby IDE ). Morphtron is an evolution of the Free Dynamic Object Model(FreeDOM) I’d created in the mid-90’s for Smalltalk and [...] […] but not limited to a native Ruby IDE ). Morphtron is an evolution of the Free Dynamic Object Model(FreeDOM) I’d created in the mid-90’s for Smalltalk and […]

]]> Comment on Aptana On the Back Burner by Javascript - Still Object-Oriented :: Back To Aptana http://javascript.funkencode.com/2007/06/20/aptana-on-the-back-burner/#comment-7 Javascript - Still Object-Oriented :: Back To Aptana Mon, 02 Jul 2007 02:13:36 +0000 http://javascript.funkencode.com/2007/06/20/aptana-on-the-back-burner/#comment-7 [...] use. I’m also now after two weeks pretty comfortable with the AIR environment so I’m taking Aptana off the back burner. It’s also been  updated to support ExtJS directly. If you’re a Mac person and are [...] […] use. I’m also now after two weeks pretty comfortable with the AIR environment so I’m taking Aptana off the back burner. It’s also been  updated to support ExtJS directly. If you’re a Mac person and are […]

]]> Comment on Java Reloaded: Aptana, AIR, Eclipse and all that Jazz by lr http://javascript.funkencode.com/2007/06/16/java-reloaded-aptana-air-eclipse-and-all-that-jazz/#comment-6 lr Sat, 16 Jun 2007 21:14:40 +0000 http://javascript.funkencode.com/2007/06/16/java-reloaded-aptana-air-eclipse-and-all-that-jazz/#comment-6 While Aptana is more focused than Eclipse, it still is a big Java app consuming 754M of virtual memory according to Activity Monitor. I suppose if I had another gig it would feel snappier but now it takes a bit to load and some response times border on annoying. I probably should have said Ruby on Rails - I haven't actually done anything with it yet, but having a single environment in which you can edit/manage both client AND server elements of a solution seems way cool - very much in the spirit of Smalltalk. While Aptana is more focused than Eclipse, it still is a big Java app consuming 754M of virtual memory according to Activity Monitor. I suppose if I had another gig it would feel snappier but now it takes a bit to load and some response times border on annoying. I probably should have said Ruby on Rails - I haven’t actually done anything with it yet, but having a single environment in which you can edit/manage both client AND server elements of a solution seems way cool - very much in the spirit of Smalltalk.

]]> Comment on Java Reloaded: Aptana, AIR, Eclipse and all that Jazz by dshafer http://javascript.funkencode.com/2007/06/16/java-reloaded-aptana-air-eclipse-and-all-that-jazz/#comment-5 dshafer Sat, 16 Jun 2007 19:20:23 +0000 http://javascript.funkencode.com/2007/06/16/java-reloaded-aptana-air-eclipse-and-all-that-jazz/#comment-5 Laurence, So where do you feel the lurking, clunky Javaness (which seems to me repetitively redundant) in this mix? And where does Ruby come into play in these apps? JavaScript (with XML or JSON data representation), HTML, CSS, AIR and SQLite seem to me to just about put the package together without much supporting cast, no? Or am I missing something. Laurence,

So where do you feel the lurking, clunky Javaness (which seems to me repetitively redundant) in this mix? And where does Ruby come into play in these apps?

JavaScript (with XML or JSON data representation), HTML, CSS, AIR and SQLite seem to me to just about put the package together without much supporting cast, no? Or am I missing something.

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